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  1. All: Posted this review on reloaderhub a few weeks agone - wanted to share my additional thoughts as I pass the ane,000 round mark:

    Notes after ane,000 rounds - I did clothing out the plastic index gear at near 400 rounds. I took this press apart several times and discovered that when putting this printing back together it'south important to remember that the square plastic gear goes back in LIP Downwards. 600 rounds afterwards I'm withal using the same replacement gear (costs .50 cents for a new one) and machine alphabetize *totally rocks* I tin can make about 150 rounds per 60 minutes without hurrying. For $214 off ebay this was a corking buy.

    Ane other thing: I find myself constantly looking for skillful deals in ammo supplies 'and so I don't run out' - tin't terminate - want to shoot more than than ever, life is good ;-)

    Initial review:

    Lee Classic Turret Kit
    Bought this kit because I want to save money and I figured if this kit was a wash-out, I could yet go back and justify buying amend gear to the wife. As I read all the comments on various equipment, this particular printing seemed to have the fewest existent complaints - plus a few passionate Lee users got me to seriously looking at this kit.

    My first look:

    1. Instructions could be a lot better. OK, they pretty much downright suck: peculiarly the instructions on how the pulverisation measure works. Without this forum, youtube and a buddy on the east declension talking me through the OAL setup on my dies, I'd probably all the same be shaking my head. It might be that way with the other kits also - but this is what I bought.

    2. I was pleasantly surprised when the packet arrived from the 4 sportsman shop on ebay - because I ordered the Lee Kit and the four die 9mm kit from them, I got iv crisp new dollar bills and a note that this was money saved for combined shipping - more coin for my reloading table ...

    3. The turret press is very strong. No play in the linkage like I saw that in comments about the T-Magazine. I recall the auto index is a huge advantage but I wish it was metal instead of plastic. The linkage was initially pretty stiff just information technology loosened up with some wd40.

    4. I was concerned about the scale, looks kind of flimsy so bought a franklin forge digital scale to double check. The scales both work merely fine but I similar the digital because information technology can apace check the weight of my bullets afterward crimping them.

    5. I decapped about 500 shells of range option ups (more often than not mine, I've saved nigh 1,500 shells over the last yr). Had a run of bad shells and averaged a stuck shell in the decapper about every 3rd trounce for about 100 casings or and then. I'm thinking I picked upward a bad run on one day as they all came from the same container ... I cleaned the shells before loading them. I similar the thought that I tin put casings through the whole procedure at in one case but was concerned about primer seating.

    6. I followed the die installation instructions that came with my dies - my offset reload was a midget with the trounce stuck into the casing below the ogive ... some other phone call to my buddy on the e coast and got walked though the proper way to prepare dies ... I after found that same procedure on page 55 of my Lee transmission that ends with a statement on the instructions that come with the dice are less detailed because of 'infinite considerations' - what? Why couldn't the instructions that came with the die refer the (new) user to the reloading transmission or a more complete set of instructions on their web site?

    seven. The primer loader works fine. no issues with information technology but again, wish in that location was more than metallic in information technology.

    8. The powder measure is difficult to sympathise because Lee uses a cubic centimeter measurement that has to be converted into grains with a formula based on the size of the powder particles. Another issue is that for WSF powder, I only have i powder measurement available with the disk setup that comes with the powder mensurate. The setting for WSF with 115 grain jacketed bullets is number four on the disk - measured consistantly 4.ane-iv.3 grains last night. I would similar more flexibility in measuring powder so I'll probably buy the optional adjustable accuse bar (nearly $10).

    So subsequently reloading about 100 rounds, I take learned that I have some flexability in the OAL - (once again, from manufactures I've read on the Net and in conversations with my reloading buddy on the e declension). I am happy with my purchase but I'll go on the tape as stating that there are some things I'd like to see different in this kit but for just over $200 off the internet, this is 1 hell of a good buy. I'll be shooting my reloads this week and if you don't hear more almost this kit, it's because I'm happy and busy loading more rounds ...

  2. Accept the archetype four turret, Seems to work keen with the 45acp. Have a slight problem with the powder disc. Using win 231 the disc binds on occasion due to the powder type. Information technology is easily overcome but it definitely keeps me paying attention before placing the bullet. If it doesn't completely reset it won't charge the casing possibly resulting in a squib. I brand absolute betoken to verify powder earlier seating a bullet. Biggest complaint; this started an habit. I have to continue reminding myself to let this one pay for itself earlier getting serious near a progressive.
    As a noob to loading I'g a trivial paranoid about double and triple checking. I've gotten in a habit of checking O.A.50. every 10 rds And have to say through all the rounds so far, about 450, I've yet to have to re-adjust depth. There are pocket-size differences due to bullet texture only average stays spot on. Overall cracking buy. I don't want to take abroad from anyone, just I got mine from middway on sale for 120.00. That was the kit with safe scale,which sucks, and the auto disc.
  3. I check OAL and weight about every ten-20 rounds. When yous utilize choice ups off the range, different brands mean unlike weights and lengths where casings are concerned.

    I find that my powder measurements are very consistent using WSF - I've read that fleck powders tin can be problematic though. That said, I am a noob at this - yet working through my first pound of powder ...

  4. Congrats on the purchase - I take been using the Classic turret for several years and take Nil complaints - I'thou notwithstanding on the original square plastic ratchet likewise - lol - information technology tin merely get damaged if you try to rotate the turret with the ram in the incorrect position.

    In truth I have never used the Lee VMD conversion charts to determine disk hole size, or PPM setting either when I utilize the unmarried phase. I just pick a size or setting, weigh the charge, and repeat the process adjusting until I have the size needed to throw the weight I desire.

  5. bogon48

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    I like the Lee Classic 4 hole turret and use it by and large for .223 and .45 now. I like the fact that you tin can adjust the stroke and throw of the handle and dies so that you tin can employ information technology as single phase for some tasks, like depriming crimped military contumely, and then past pushing farther dorsum on the handle rotate the dies to the next stage.

    I've seen guys on YouTube remove the indexing nut and fustigate its performance as a turret press. Bluntly, that'south a problem I've never had. Of class, I utilize a Lee manus primer and charge my cases in separate steps. Bottom line, you take a lot of flexibility with this tool. It's very adaptable to your reloading needs.

  6. tglazie

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  7. I use mine for 9mm, 45 ACP, 45 Filly and 45-70 loving it.
  8. Become to the LEE web site and view the video instructions for dies and all the residuum.
    http://leeprecision.com/turret-press-help-videos.html
    This is video for a single stage die set-up. Same prepare for each of your dies:
    http://leeprecision.com/unmarried-station-die-aligning.html

    Promise this helps

  9. I'yard glad you're happy with your new press. There'south hardly anything worse than buying a new toy and non liking information technology!

    When i start got my Classic Turret printing I "broke" iii of those nylon squares for the motorcar-index in the starting time month. (all my error) After I realized not to plough the turret unless the handle was half way pulled everything was fine. I recall i have over 10,000 rounds on this one and while information technology'due south getting very sloppy, it's yet working.

    Once I got used to the press I was able to safely produce between 180 to 200 rounds/hour. It's a bang-up press for handgun ammo and I utilize it without the motorcar-index rod when making up batches of rifle ammo too. (as heavy equally thirty-06)

  10. It's not the position of the ram, but the direction of last move.

    The square ratchet (otherwise known as the "niggling black square thingy") slides upwardly and downward the indexing rod, forced by the indexing arm (the square ratchet is trapped inside of information technology). Since at that place is some drag, the foursquare ratchet is forced against the interior underside of the summit of the indexing arm when the ram movement is downwards. The underside is where the ratchet notches are. If the square ratchet is engaged with those notches, and you rotate the turret (and the indexing rod) in the backwards direction, you will experience resistance. If y'all forcefulness information technology, you lot will interruption the square ratchet. It'south that simple.

    Put another manner.

    Information technology does non matter where the indexing arm is located. It merely matters where the square ratchet is in relation to those notches. Just yous cannot SEE the position of the foursquare ratchet, so y'all accept to rely on remembering the direction of travel of the ram, the master determining factor.

    If the last movement of the ram was downward, the square ratchet volition be upwards and engaged with the notches. If it was upward, the square ratchet will be down and non be engaged. If not engaged, no breakage. If engaged, you can break the square ratchet, almost guaranteed. Do non pass go, pay l cents and kickoff over.

    I volition repeat. The stationary position of the ram is irrelevant. The position of the hidden square ratchet is relevant. The position of the foursquare ratchet is determined by the direction of the nearly recent move of the ram.

    About contempo move up, disengaged; breakage incommunicable. Downwardly, engaged; breakage possible.

    In mnemonic grade:

    Most contempo motility up, OK.
    Downward, not ok

    Remember the signal from the Roman Coliseum:
    Thumbs up, your foursquare ratchet lives.
    Thumbs down, your foursquare ratchet dies.

    Lost Sheep

    Edit: An alternative method (which works no matter where the ram is) is to take hold of the indexing rod, elevator it 1/iv inch and drop information technology back down. That will comport the ratchet out of engagement with the notches on the inside of the indexing arm.

  11. tglazie

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    That is very interesting, I always avoid turning the turret when the ram is all the way down, regardless of the direction it is coming from, but this makes perfect sense when you put it that mode.

    I also agree with the the previous poster though when he says if you make sure the ram is halfway you lot are OK to spin the turret regardless of the management the ram was traveling previously. When I have the indexing rod in and need to move the turret past hand for some reason I just make sure to "gratis up" the turret by moving the ram to a neutral spot between all the style downwardly and all the mode up.

    So far the only time I take broken the ratchet was when I accidentally turned the turret while moving the whole printing once (empty hopper and no primers on board). It was a rookie mistake which others can learn from- e'er remove a turret that has dies and a powder measure on it from the press earlier moving the press.

  12. I like the classic turret
    I use it to resize the brass---expand the mouth----seat the bullet & crimp if necessary
    I utilise RCBS 5-0-5 scale---RCBS uniflo pulverization measure & RCBS auto prime tool.
    Works good for me.
    I don't use my Dillons anymore----no need to rush
  13. I love mine, I don't shoot enough to Demand a progressive, only I accept near 2000k rounds of .38, .45, 7.7jap, 7.62x54r, vii.62x39, and .xxx-06 loaded on mine. The merely problem i have is that it starts to alphabetize before the .30-06 clears the die...o well simply take out the rod and turn by hand.
  15. The alternative method, which works no matter what, is to grab the indexing rod, elevator information technology one/4 inch and drop it back down. That will deport the ratchet out of engagement with the notches on the inside of the indexing arm.

    Lost Sheep.

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